My only comment would be regarding any negotiations with Trump (or any US President, for that matter): you need to future proof any agreement against incoming Presidents.
VVP has stated many times that the west is agreement incapable, and so it has proved, with regard to both missile treaties, NATO expansion, and Minsk 1 & 2. Not sure how Russia could realize that since Minsk was ratified into international law through the UNSC, and ignored by the west. As for a pan-European security agreement based on indivisible security - there is one in place, but NATO, the US, and EU have ignored it. So, how do you reach agreements with people who ignore the law when it suits them (as in, all the time)?
The bankruptcy of NATO's strategy to wipe out Ukraine's youth in this pointless war shows the the poor deficiency of their thinking after having destroyed 1.2 million Ukraine's citizens and infrastructure.
- If you want to know why Ukraine won't be able to conscript more people then look at the horrible demographic situation of the Ukraine. Between say 1990 and 2004 the ukrainian birth rate cratered to extreme low levels / (more than) halved. The people who were supposed to be born then are the ones who are supposed to be drafted for the ukrainian army and for the current war. But these people / men are simply not there / are missing. After say 2004 birth rate recovered up to say 2014 (as a result of "Maidan"????) but from about 2014 (NOT 2022 !!!) onwards the birth rate has gone down dramatically again. and now in 2024 the ukrainian birth rate was at the lowest point ever in the history of the Ukraine.
- What also A LOT OF people overlook is the impact of EU policies in the past. From about 2004 onwards people from Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc. started to / were allowed to work in other countries in the EU. A LOT OF polish workers took this opportunity and left for W.-Europe to work there. E.g. the UK estimated that some 50.000 poeple would take that opportunity. It turned out some 500.000 people came to the UK as a result of this.
- There is a connection between polish workers coming to W.-Europe and the Ukraine. These polish workers Coving to W.-Europe meant that in e.g Poland also saw an increase of shortages of workers. These shortages were solved by "importing" more ukrainian workers. These workers are right now in the same age brackets people the ukrainian army needs most.
- This is an outright Demographic DISASTER for the Ukraine.
I think you'll find when Brexit happened 7 million Polish citizens applied for a British passport. Not some 500 thousand. Believe me I'm a British construction worker. Every building site in our country has its safety signs in 2 languages English & Polish . I haven't got a clue where you got that 500 thousand figure from. But it's way off.
7 million Poles would mean that ~11% of the UK’s population is Polish…the math isn’t mathing, sorry…(official statistic is ~700k, sounds more like it - that’s still a lot of people, so I don’t doubt that it in certain industries it might seem as if they’re everywhere). Also, if you go to Poland right now, you might just want to stay there, because the country built itself up to the point (shiny new infrastructure, opportunities, access to literally everything, good quality food and products and all) that it offers hell of a lot better quality of life than the UK. I’m saying this as a Hungarian with a UK passport - I don’t doubt that more people than that applied for a UK passport if they were eligible, but I hate to break it to you, the majority of us have gone back to our countries, not because you so wished during Brexit, but because life is simply better back home now (oh and we don’t have to endure the everyday racism, that helps too ;). Peace and love 💜
Ukraine has been suffering two thousand casualties a day for a long time. The war is over a thousand days old. That's two million casualties, and counting. Now it's probably not as many as that as two thousand casualties seems to be more of a peak figure, but the exact figure is not the point. The point is that a nation's men, a generation, are steadily being wiped out.
If you are an advocate for continuing this, for extending it to the next generation youthwards, you are a psychopath, and (because neuroscience is not my area of study) by that I mean someone who is so completely deficient in empathy that causing the deaths of fellow human beings does not move them; at least does not move them into seeking to avoid those deaths.
We tend to think of psychopaths as locked away inside institutions, and of course many are. The problem is, some of those institutions are governments and bureaucracies. Western governments and bureaucracies. The world is not safe from these people. There they are, on tv, in suits and ties, claiming to be our moral guardians, while advocating death en masse.
How do they attain these positions?
Because the positions are within organisations that are themselves perhaps best described as 'institutional psychopaths': the US; the UK; NATO; the EU; feel free to add your own...
"Forcing hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians into the army will undoubtedly slow down the Russian advances"
While I agree with the remainder of that sentence, which I've removed, I'm not sure that another tranche of Ukrainian 'meat' will slow the Russians down whatsoever; at least not on Ukrainian soil, in the areas where the Ukrainians are steadily getting pushed back from. The Russians take a few square kilometres here, a few there, every day, across the Donbas.
The Russians seem completely unmoved by Trump's election. They have neither slowed down nor speeded up their advance. Just steady as she goes, like a vice slowly closing its jaws.
I've seen mention that any fresh Ukrainian 'meat' will be trained in the West into assault brigades, who will then be sent on Kursk-style raids into Russia. Kursk seems to have achieved nothing. Well, five hundred square kilometres at the cost of fifty thousand lives (if that figure can be believed), and Russia will not trade this land back, they will just take it.
I've seen various theories posited as to the rationale behind the Kursk operation. The goals. Personally I don't understand it, but am not willing to rubbish it entirely, given that I'm not party to the rationale, and after all the Ukrainians are still there, even if only by half as much. Their presence seems akin to an annoying mosquito, one which will be swatted in the end.
So the Ukrainians add a second or third annoying mosquito? To what end?
The only rationale I could understand would be if such an incursion was simply a vanguard to clear a path ahead for NATO forces to swarm in from behind. But they're not, and not a single NATO government seems willing to commit troops on the ground. So why mobilise again?
Another wave of Ukrainian mobilisation would add hundreds of thousands more pointless deaths and push Ukraine further towards demographic oblivion. It is absolute in its immorality.
Yes, they're fighting for Ukraine, but what is Ukraine if the Ukrainian men are all dead?
I don't know how monsters like Blinken, Rutte and Waltz, and arguably Zelensky (given he had a peace deal within his grasp but somehow contrived to let Boris Johnson talk him out of it) sleep at night. Well actually I do, and that brings me neatly back to where I started...
The incursion into Kursk seemed to me to be a "reyd". That's a Russian tactic using small units moving fast and across a large area to sow confusion in the enemy rear. I am not convinced they were headed to the airfield or the KNPP.
The WEF, EU and NATO are not concerned by Ukrainians dying. The whole point of the SMO is to kill as many Ukrainians as possible if it will cause Russian Federation unrest and get the third Chechnyan war started. Psychopaths NEVER allow inconvenient social constructs such as morality impede their ambitions.
18 years hope they can fle. There will almost be any mail left in ukrain, youngster and smal children. A country need also man (and woman) to rebuit their country
NATO is an aggressive military block used as a tool for American psychopathic warmongering Neocons. It's taken the Russians a couple of decades to build up to be able to stand up to this aggressive block. Russia has a bright future with the Brics nations. NATO has no future without an enemy. NATO doesn't want any peace deal with Russia. The latest mouthpiece in the Whitehouse might want to stop spending money in Ukraine. But that makes no difference to the NATO machine. NATO needs conflict, it needs an enemy. If it doesn't have an enemy it soon finds one. It can't stop getting into conflicts. Even better if some idiot country is fighting their conflicts for them. NATO would be happy if Ukraine sent anyone male or female from the age of 12 upwards to fight. Anyone who believes any different is totally delusional. You only have to listen to any interview given by Blinken or Sulivan to hear how much these people care about the destruction of Ukraine or any other country. Not one single thing they say is based on the truth or facts. Everything is a complete fantasy. Yet it's those 2 compulsive liars who have ran America for the last 4 years. How? Because they never want peace anywhere.
In April 2024 Ukraine manufactured a fiction that prior to that date, its minimum military enlistment age had been 27. Record show however than since December 2016 at least, Wikipedia was showing the age of military enlistment in Ukraine as being 20 years of age.
The current Wikipedia page maintains the new Ukrainian fiction despite the fact that its own previous publications on the subject entirely contradicts the Ukrainian narrative.
Ukraine - 25 (compulsory; was 27 before April 2024)
The reason Ukraine did this was to persuade the rest of the world that it had some huge untapped pool of young men to be recruited when in fact they had been enlisting everyone aged 20+ from the very beginning. They are all gone now and either dead or fled. Ukraine has been cynically using this fiction to con the West into offering them more money if they lower this age restriction which never in fact existed.
This American Bully Boy Tactic is a disgraceful disgusting act by the Americans to use Children and 18 is still Child territory I wonder when America and NATO have used all available Cannon Fodder will they stop and call it quits so as to avoid using American Children as fodder for the Russian Guns. Because no matter what Biden Trump Starmer Blair the French Midget the hanging by his fingernails German Chancellor or the Quite Insane NATO LEADERS say, The Russians had the right to invade Ukraine and Protect their Borders the Western Gangsta Cult are Corrupted to the marrow in their bones. Russia has more right than The Nazi Israeli’ Regime to attack Real Warmongers than Netanyahu and his Murdering IDF had for bringing down a Holocaust on The Gaza Strip Palestine and Lebanon. The Western Powers ie The NATO Alliance have broken every promise they have made to The Russians just as they Did with The Red Indians the indigenous Peoples of America Every Single Western Leader “IS A CORRUPT LYING BASTARD”Hell bent on Murdering by illegal Wars to reduce the Poor Population to a manageable level so we are easier to control This is our Future if All you Brainwashed People do not Wake the F*** UP.
Do US and EU politicians - and their people in general - and not to mention the ordinary Ukrainian population, really not know anything about the background and context of the war in Ukraine? The fact that a Maidan-coup to place in 2014 which turned Ukraine from a neutral to a Russia-hating country? Have they really never reflected and evaluated about these circumstances since they unconditionally buy the US-EU narrativ that "Russia invaded Ukraine"?
Hard to imagine NATO agreeing to see its own demise. Wonder what they deem to be a position of strength after 1 million combatant deaths , and a far stronger Russia with collapsing support from EU countries who have been financially ruined with sanctions.
The level of insane delusion with NATO/America about the consequences they have wrought is mind boggling.
Ukrainian successes ???? I know that Russia withdrew VOLUNTARILY because they didn't have enough troops to keep what they had conquered. They wanted to keep what they conquered north of the Crimea but gave up the Charkiv region.
The superpower Russias meat grinder and war machine has so far “consumed” approximately 1 million Ukrainians and mercenaries. I don’t think Zelensky is that stupid thinking his own people doesn’t know about this. Therefore he will never lower the age of military service to 18. He also knows Ukraine is the ultimate sacrifice for the NATO Countries and their never ending wars against enemies of the psychopathic elite in the western hemisphere.
There is only one explanation for US/EU lies, self-deceit, and intransigence about the Ukraine war: an ideology which in western societies takes the place of formal religion and morality. That ideology is woke leftism, based on a noxious brew of postmodernism, progressivism, postrealism, gnosticism, and narcissism.
That Dr. Diesen keeps ignoring this ideology in all his essays subsequent to "How Europe's Political Class Began Rejecting Reality" is puzzling. Perhaps he believes that it's a taboo topic amongst his professional peers, probably beneath their intellectual dignity.
Regardless, this issue is an essential component of the current historical situation, and these essays suffer from its lack of inclusion.
Maybe you live in US or UK, but for most of continental EU / Europe "woke leftism" barely exists and in many places , especially the further east you go, the term 'woke' is unknown. What IS known is EU imposed secularism and foisting trannies into EU events, which is roundly rejected/ignored by the populace. So Prof. Diesen is not wrong in ignoring this AngloAmerican culture issue as it is 99% immaterial on the continent.
What IS material is US military occupation in every EU country with Greece suffering also Israeli bases since 2015 - these bases guarantee "compliance" and are justified as "NATO". In addition, the EU - an institutional carapace invented and run by Washington, with puppet 'leaders' selected by Washington, [chosen for their corruption] - is the "civil administration"arm of NATO ....it serves only AngloAmerican interests as it de-sovereignises and emasculates the captive countries within its zone.
None of these institutional layers represent the populations [ie the real Europe]of the EU countries who are left with only a local vote, too often overturned.
My only comment would be regarding any negotiations with Trump (or any US President, for that matter): you need to future proof any agreement against incoming Presidents.
VVP has stated many times that the west is agreement incapable, and so it has proved, with regard to both missile treaties, NATO expansion, and Minsk 1 & 2. Not sure how Russia could realize that since Minsk was ratified into international law through the UNSC, and ignored by the west. As for a pan-European security agreement based on indivisible security - there is one in place, but NATO, the US, and EU have ignored it. So, how do you reach agreements with people who ignore the law when it suits them (as in, all the time)?
Peace thru strength, sic, means Russia gonna create fact on the ground, sic, of Little Russia now, end of banderistan forever.
The bankruptcy of NATO's strategy to wipe out Ukraine's youth in this pointless war shows the the poor deficiency of their thinking after having destroyed 1.2 million Ukraine's citizens and infrastructure.
- If you want to know why Ukraine won't be able to conscript more people then look at the horrible demographic situation of the Ukraine. Between say 1990 and 2004 the ukrainian birth rate cratered to extreme low levels / (more than) halved. The people who were supposed to be born then are the ones who are supposed to be drafted for the ukrainian army and for the current war. But these people / men are simply not there / are missing. After say 2004 birth rate recovered up to say 2014 (as a result of "Maidan"????) but from about 2014 (NOT 2022 !!!) onwards the birth rate has gone down dramatically again. and now in 2024 the ukrainian birth rate was at the lowest point ever in the history of the Ukraine.
- What also A LOT OF people overlook is the impact of EU policies in the past. From about 2004 onwards people from Poland, Romania, Bulgaria etc. started to / were allowed to work in other countries in the EU. A LOT OF polish workers took this opportunity and left for W.-Europe to work there. E.g. the UK estimated that some 50.000 poeple would take that opportunity. It turned out some 500.000 people came to the UK as a result of this.
- There is a connection between polish workers coming to W.-Europe and the Ukraine. These polish workers Coving to W.-Europe meant that in e.g Poland also saw an increase of shortages of workers. These shortages were solved by "importing" more ukrainian workers. These workers are right now in the same age brackets people the ukrainian army needs most.
- This is an outright Demographic DISASTER for the Ukraine.
I think you'll find when Brexit happened 7 million Polish citizens applied for a British passport. Not some 500 thousand. Believe me I'm a British construction worker. Every building site in our country has its safety signs in 2 languages English & Polish . I haven't got a clue where you got that 500 thousand figure from. But it's way off.
7 million Poles would mean that ~11% of the UK’s population is Polish…the math isn’t mathing, sorry…(official statistic is ~700k, sounds more like it - that’s still a lot of people, so I don’t doubt that it in certain industries it might seem as if they’re everywhere). Also, if you go to Poland right now, you might just want to stay there, because the country built itself up to the point (shiny new infrastructure, opportunities, access to literally everything, good quality food and products and all) that it offers hell of a lot better quality of life than the UK. I’m saying this as a Hungarian with a UK passport - I don’t doubt that more people than that applied for a UK passport if they were eligible, but I hate to break it to you, the majority of us have gone back to our countries, not because you so wished during Brexit, but because life is simply better back home now (oh and we don’t have to endure the everyday racism, that helps too ;). Peace and love 💜
Ukraine has been suffering two thousand casualties a day for a long time. The war is over a thousand days old. That's two million casualties, and counting. Now it's probably not as many as that as two thousand casualties seems to be more of a peak figure, but the exact figure is not the point. The point is that a nation's men, a generation, are steadily being wiped out.
If you are an advocate for continuing this, for extending it to the next generation youthwards, you are a psychopath, and (because neuroscience is not my area of study) by that I mean someone who is so completely deficient in empathy that causing the deaths of fellow human beings does not move them; at least does not move them into seeking to avoid those deaths.
We tend to think of psychopaths as locked away inside institutions, and of course many are. The problem is, some of those institutions are governments and bureaucracies. Western governments and bureaucracies. The world is not safe from these people. There they are, on tv, in suits and ties, claiming to be our moral guardians, while advocating death en masse.
How do they attain these positions?
Because the positions are within organisations that are themselves perhaps best described as 'institutional psychopaths': the US; the UK; NATO; the EU; feel free to add your own...
"Forcing hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians into the army will undoubtedly slow down the Russian advances"
While I agree with the remainder of that sentence, which I've removed, I'm not sure that another tranche of Ukrainian 'meat' will slow the Russians down whatsoever; at least not on Ukrainian soil, in the areas where the Ukrainians are steadily getting pushed back from. The Russians take a few square kilometres here, a few there, every day, across the Donbas.
The Russians seem completely unmoved by Trump's election. They have neither slowed down nor speeded up their advance. Just steady as she goes, like a vice slowly closing its jaws.
I've seen mention that any fresh Ukrainian 'meat' will be trained in the West into assault brigades, who will then be sent on Kursk-style raids into Russia. Kursk seems to have achieved nothing. Well, five hundred square kilometres at the cost of fifty thousand lives (if that figure can be believed), and Russia will not trade this land back, they will just take it.
I've seen various theories posited as to the rationale behind the Kursk operation. The goals. Personally I don't understand it, but am not willing to rubbish it entirely, given that I'm not party to the rationale, and after all the Ukrainians are still there, even if only by half as much. Their presence seems akin to an annoying mosquito, one which will be swatted in the end.
So the Ukrainians add a second or third annoying mosquito? To what end?
The only rationale I could understand would be if such an incursion was simply a vanguard to clear a path ahead for NATO forces to swarm in from behind. But they're not, and not a single NATO government seems willing to commit troops on the ground. So why mobilise again?
Another wave of Ukrainian mobilisation would add hundreds of thousands more pointless deaths and push Ukraine further towards demographic oblivion. It is absolute in its immorality.
Yes, they're fighting for Ukraine, but what is Ukraine if the Ukrainian men are all dead?
I don't know how monsters like Blinken, Rutte and Waltz, and arguably Zelensky (given he had a peace deal within his grasp but somehow contrived to let Boris Johnson talk him out of it) sleep at night. Well actually I do, and that brings me neatly back to where I started...
The incursion into Kursk seemed to me to be a "reyd". That's a Russian tactic using small units moving fast and across a large area to sow confusion in the enemy rear. I am not convinced they were headed to the airfield or the KNPP.
The WEF, EU and NATO are not concerned by Ukrainians dying. The whole point of the SMO is to kill as many Ukrainians as possible if it will cause Russian Federation unrest and get the third Chechnyan war started. Psychopaths NEVER allow inconvenient social constructs such as morality impede their ambitions.
18 years hope they can fle. There will almost be any mail left in ukrain, youngster and smal children. A country need also man (and woman) to rebuit their country
NATO is an aggressive military block used as a tool for American psychopathic warmongering Neocons. It's taken the Russians a couple of decades to build up to be able to stand up to this aggressive block. Russia has a bright future with the Brics nations. NATO has no future without an enemy. NATO doesn't want any peace deal with Russia. The latest mouthpiece in the Whitehouse might want to stop spending money in Ukraine. But that makes no difference to the NATO machine. NATO needs conflict, it needs an enemy. If it doesn't have an enemy it soon finds one. It can't stop getting into conflicts. Even better if some idiot country is fighting their conflicts for them. NATO would be happy if Ukraine sent anyone male or female from the age of 12 upwards to fight. Anyone who believes any different is totally delusional. You only have to listen to any interview given by Blinken or Sulivan to hear how much these people care about the destruction of Ukraine or any other country. Not one single thing they say is based on the truth or facts. Everything is a complete fantasy. Yet it's those 2 compulsive liars who have ran America for the last 4 years. How? Because they never want peace anywhere.
In April 2024 Ukraine manufactured a fiction that prior to that date, its minimum military enlistment age had been 27. Record show however than since December 2016 at least, Wikipedia was showing the age of military enlistment in Ukraine as being 20 years of age.
https://web.archive.org/web/20161225083242/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_enlistment_age_by_country
Even in January 2024 Wikipedia was still reporting the age as being 20 years old.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240104184159/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_enlistment_age_by_country.
It was only in April 2024 that we suddenly found out that Ukraine mysteriously lowered the age to 25 from 27 apparently.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-conscription-mobilization-251058a942a253f3eaec2c53373adf03
The current Wikipedia page maintains the new Ukrainian fiction despite the fact that its own previous publications on the subject entirely contradicts the Ukrainian narrative.
Ukraine - 25 (compulsory; was 27 before April 2024)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_enlistment_age_by_country
The reason Ukraine did this was to persuade the rest of the world that it had some huge untapped pool of young men to be recruited when in fact they had been enlisting everyone aged 20+ from the very beginning. They are all gone now and either dead or fled. Ukraine has been cynically using this fiction to con the West into offering them more money if they lower this age restriction which never in fact existed.
Conscripts or volunteers?
Russia conscripts and allows volunteers at 1i8.
Why are we even having this conversation?
It borders on the diabolical
This American Bully Boy Tactic is a disgraceful disgusting act by the Americans to use Children and 18 is still Child territory I wonder when America and NATO have used all available Cannon Fodder will they stop and call it quits so as to avoid using American Children as fodder for the Russian Guns. Because no matter what Biden Trump Starmer Blair the French Midget the hanging by his fingernails German Chancellor or the Quite Insane NATO LEADERS say, The Russians had the right to invade Ukraine and Protect their Borders the Western Gangsta Cult are Corrupted to the marrow in their bones. Russia has more right than The Nazi Israeli’ Regime to attack Real Warmongers than Netanyahu and his Murdering IDF had for bringing down a Holocaust on The Gaza Strip Palestine and Lebanon. The Western Powers ie The NATO Alliance have broken every promise they have made to The Russians just as they Did with The Red Indians the indigenous Peoples of America Every Single Western Leader “IS A CORRUPT LYING BASTARD”Hell bent on Murdering by illegal Wars to reduce the Poor Population to a manageable level so we are easier to control This is our Future if All you Brainwashed People do not Wake the F*** UP.
We will leave. UK will go. The EU can deal with the mess.
Do US and EU politicians - and their people in general - and not to mention the ordinary Ukrainian population, really not know anything about the background and context of the war in Ukraine? The fact that a Maidan-coup to place in 2014 which turned Ukraine from a neutral to a Russia-hating country? Have they really never reflected and evaluated about these circumstances since they unconditionally buy the US-EU narrativ that "Russia invaded Ukraine"?
Hard to imagine NATO agreeing to see its own demise. Wonder what they deem to be a position of strength after 1 million combatant deaths , and a far stronger Russia with collapsing support from EU countries who have been financially ruined with sanctions.
The level of insane delusion with NATO/America about the consequences they have wrought is mind boggling.
Position of strength???
Ukrainian successes ???? I know that Russia withdrew VOLUNTARILY because they didn't have enough troops to keep what they had conquered. They wanted to keep what they conquered north of the Crimea but gave up the Charkiv region.
The superpower Russias meat grinder and war machine has so far “consumed” approximately 1 million Ukrainians and mercenaries. I don’t think Zelensky is that stupid thinking his own people doesn’t know about this. Therefore he will never lower the age of military service to 18. He also knows Ukraine is the ultimate sacrifice for the NATO Countries and their never ending wars against enemies of the psychopathic elite in the western hemisphere.
Walz is just another warmonger.
The US Will not change it’s policy, it’s All cheap talk.
Trump will be another Biden, but without the glooves. We will all die irradiated and the US will be the first shooter.
The US top brass military are the only ones that believe in a first strike Victory. May all Gods have pitty on us, who elected these criminals.
Look, without NATO help, the people of Donbass would be speaking Russian by now!
There is only one explanation for US/EU lies, self-deceit, and intransigence about the Ukraine war: an ideology which in western societies takes the place of formal religion and morality. That ideology is woke leftism, based on a noxious brew of postmodernism, progressivism, postrealism, gnosticism, and narcissism.
That Dr. Diesen keeps ignoring this ideology in all his essays subsequent to "How Europe's Political Class Began Rejecting Reality" is puzzling. Perhaps he believes that it's a taboo topic amongst his professional peers, probably beneath their intellectual dignity.
Regardless, this issue is an essential component of the current historical situation, and these essays suffer from its lack of inclusion.
Maybe you live in US or UK, but for most of continental EU / Europe "woke leftism" barely exists and in many places , especially the further east you go, the term 'woke' is unknown. What IS known is EU imposed secularism and foisting trannies into EU events, which is roundly rejected/ignored by the populace. So Prof. Diesen is not wrong in ignoring this AngloAmerican culture issue as it is 99% immaterial on the continent.
What IS material is US military occupation in every EU country with Greece suffering also Israeli bases since 2015 - these bases guarantee "compliance" and are justified as "NATO". In addition, the EU - an institutional carapace invented and run by Washington, with puppet 'leaders' selected by Washington, [chosen for their corruption] - is the "civil administration"arm of NATO ....it serves only AngloAmerican interests as it de-sovereignises and emasculates the captive countries within its zone.
None of these institutional layers represent the populations [ie the real Europe]of the EU countries who are left with only a local vote, too often overturned.
This, NOT "woke leftism" is our issue.