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Swlion's avatar

NATO is responsible for this. They lied to Russia back in 1990, when they said they wouldn’t add NATO members east of Germany. Since then, we have 14 NATO countries east of Germany, including six that border Russia. Combine with that the anti-Putin rhetoric, referring to him as a war criminal, dictator, thug, etc., Add to that Ukraine is getting armed with tons of military equipment by NATO, with ongoing discussions of adding Ukraine to NATO. When you add all those factors together, I can see Russia’s point. They have a right to defend themselves.

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Gilgamech's avatar

The beginnings of real dialogue.

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Anna's avatar

the bankrupted scoundrel US can't be trusted.

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Gnuneo's avatar

It's so PLEASANT hearing the honest realism of Russian diplomats and politicians, compared to the never-ending nonsensical psychopathic lies from their western equivalents, that we are supposed to have "elected".

What a safer World if we too had honest, down-to-Earth realists who took care of the genuine national interests, like Corbyn or Wagenknecht.

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James Schwartz's avatar

The European’s are the only ones inserting a security force. The US has walked away from Ukraine. When Trump talks about security of Ukraine by the US he’s speaking of the billions coming in afterwards with the armies of construction workers and mining companies that will be working to rebuild the country. It’s going to be a sizeable amount of people and should ANY of them come in contact with a bullet or bomb that would create a shit storm for Russia. That’s what he talking about when he mentions a s US presence which will deter Russia. There’s no need for boots on the ground walking the boundary between Ukraine and Russia. That will be plenty of deterrence. Russia has made its point. It’s only the globalists running the EU who are screaming “Russia Russia Russia” that has already been played out and thinking it’ll work on a global scale is laughable. Trump will get Putin to put down the weapons. Peace will take some time.

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Rita's avatar

Yes, seems like the bullets and bombs would come from the west, rather than the east. Western Ukrainians (perhaps some Eastern formerly Ukrainians as well?)All watching their land and resources taken from under their feet. Western Europeans angry they missed out on the great scam, Eastern European states, peoples wondering which of them is next?

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James Schwartz's avatar

I don’t think any of them need to be worried about that. When NATO was signed they swore there would be no eastward inclusion and they kept going and going. Ukraine was the last straw. You also can’t forget how the CIA was screwing around for decades with “secret” bases with one being under the Russia border. Nobody hears much about that though. Russia had every right to get this stuff to cease. The US did plenty and shares blame but now there’s a different regime here and they are cleaning up this mess. We need to focus solely on China and let Europe defend itself. NATO should have been disbanded decades ago when the wall fell. We are finally doing that.

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Anna's avatar

American jews have been exceptionally tolerant and even supportive to Ukrainian Nazi collaborators and neo-Nazis, the banderites. The unification of ziocons and banderites has been first documented in PNAC; one of the signatories was a prominent banderites Paula Dobriansky. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

https://militarist-monitor.org/profile/paula-dobriansky/

Dad: “Lev Dobriansky taught economics at Georgetown University (1947-88), was a loyal ally of Bandera’s OUN(B) army… For decades, Dobriansky led the top US Banderite front, the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America."

Daughter: "Before joining the Bush administration in 2001, Paula Dobriansky supported advocacy efforts aimed at pushing the United States to pursue a militaristic post-Cold War posture — including taking on regimes in the Middle East even before the 9/11 attacks — through her association with groups like the Hudson Institute and the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). ...

Paula Dobriansky has furthered her father’s legacy through work as a US diplomat and policy maker in the administrations of five presidents. She has also served in key roles within the National Security Council, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Atlantic Council, Freedom House, Thomson Reuters, the American University in Afghanistan and the National Endowment for Democracy."

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Anna's avatar

Nuland-Kagan must end her criminal life in prison.

"The Outcome Report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into the Circumstances Related to Creation of Biological Laboratories by U.S. Specialists on the Territory of Ukraine:" https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/international_safety/1873584/?

"The United States is the only country in the world that has used both nuclear and chemical weapons; as well as has actively tested biological weapons on the population as part of a developed biological weapons program. ...

In September 2000, the influential U.S. non-governmental organization "Project for the New American Century" stated "In the twenty-first century, new methods of aggression will spread — electronic, non-lethal, biological ... the struggle is likely to move into new dimensions — into space, cyberspace, and maybe into the world of microorganisms...". Moreover, "...advanced biological weapons capable of affecting a specific genotype can transform bioweapons from terrorist means into useful policy tools."

The lethal infestation of the US by the degenerates progeny of the degenerates dwelled in the eastern European shetles can become lethal for Humanity at large.

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