Before the EU concedes anything material in the peace negotiations they first have to concede that they have lost.
To date they've been doing a fanatical job of denying this reality even though there are undiscovered tribes of pygmies in the heart of the peruvian jungles who have known that Russia has won for over two years now.
It's not clear that the current EU regime is capable of conceding defeat. They're openly talking about banning political parties for democracy.
I want Russia to demand US / EU hand over anyone charged with war crimes. There have been so many that these should be a requirement for closing the door on the conflict. Some things uncovered in Kursk have been horrific.
I agree that the war Democrats in the US and their allied gang in
the EU, the political leaders, should be prosecuted for war crime being responsible for killing up to 1 million Ukrainians and Russians, but it is not realistic to happen.
Nice job, Professor Diesen! Good discussion. Nice to see. Do you not wish people would stop asking you to predict what trump will do? It wastes so much valuable time during these all too short interviews and discussions. I did enjoy all three interviewees but Diesen takes the prize for rational discourse.
Yes he is an EU asset. As soon as moderator said he's at Stanford, I guessed that would be his stance, and that was borne out - he pretends the history of this conflict began in 2/22!
According to French MSM and other less right sources, US had enough investing in a never ending Ukrainian war, even without Uncle Sam, NATO or what will be left of it, even the collapsing EU economy, they want to continue after all Ukrainians are spent. And one of the journalists put it right, the longer they defend the Atlantic wall, the stronger China becomes in the Pacific, and that’s where the real war, economic, geopolitical, military will take place.
The bigger problem for Russia is what the Kremlin has already conceded before they even start "negotiations".
Given everything that has happened, the absolute minimal condition for victory is the end of Ukrainian statehood, and even that won't really suffice for true victory.
Which is:
1) completely unacceptable to the West
2) not something the Kremlin is even remotely voicing as an objective.
But the original goals of the SMO are in fact exactly equivalent to ending Ukrainian statehood, because there can be no Ukraine that is not a Nazi state hyper-militarized against Russia. It has no other basis for its existence. Every single Ukrainian national hero is a Nazi, even the ones from the WWI era (who were, if you look at their positions, true Nazis quite some time before the Germans), and the current war has only cemented that as something irreversible.
If one is in Russia right now, there should be absolute seeting with anger about both the way the war has been conducted (Putin has the power to end it with full victory in days if he wishes to exercise it, but he preferred to spend three years in industrial slaughter of the working class on both sides; why?), and the fact that there are any "negotiations" now.
Negotiate over what exactly? Nothing else but surrender terms for Russia given where the front lines run at the moment...
Little Z won elections bc of his platform to resolve issues on the East of the cuntry.
My take is that majority of ordinary Ukrainians are considering ruskies as brothers and that overwhelming majority do not support UkroNazis. Little Z knows this, combined with war fatigue and huge loss of life it makes him resent elections as someone might rise above and actually make peace with ruskies. A peace which would see all Ruskie goals achieved and Ukraina to become denzified and unified.
But whatever it is, unless Moscow takes over in full soon, it will shrink to zero quite quickly, and the process of total Banderization will be completed.
I look at Germany post WW2 for cues. Danzification has profound effects and when Banderites are fully removed, country lustrated and guns silence, people return to what/who truly they are (just another version of Ruskies).
The risk of permanent nazification comes from Ukraina ending up the way of western Jewgoslavia republics - by winning the proxy war.
I do agree that the Big P needs to advance a bit faster, before his own people become SMO-fatigued.
I wonder who owns or will own what will be left of Ukraine. I hear so much about U.S. corporations owning a lot of land and resources. Would Ukrainians be better off owned by U.S. corps or by Russia? U.S. is declining - we see what that does for U.S. citzens. I wonder. How many Ukrainians think they would be better off as part of a rising power than a sabotaged state owned by a failing one?
Before the EU concedes anything material in the peace negotiations they first have to concede that they have lost.
To date they've been doing a fanatical job of denying this reality even though there are undiscovered tribes of pygmies in the heart of the peruvian jungles who have known that Russia has won for over two years now.
It's not clear that the current EU regime is capable of conceding defeat. They're openly talking about banning political parties for democracy.
Nicely put.
The Euro Utopia's strong pro war rethoric is proof of denial of realities of the conflict.
US initiative on "peace", no matter how unrealistic is acceptance of the reality of the loss of this proxy war - its a game of save-what-can-be-saved
‘…difficult to accept for NATO which has invested money, weapons and political capital.’
NATO: ‘We want reimbursement for our malfeasance!’
Russian Federation: ‘And that is our problem because …?’
I truly and well hope that Russia captures 100% of the land with rare earth minerals, just to prove that exact point.
I want Russia to demand US / EU hand over anyone charged with war crimes. There have been so many that these should be a requirement for closing the door on the conflict. Some things uncovered in Kursk have been horrific.
I agree that the war Democrats in the US and their allied gang in
the EU, the political leaders, should be prosecuted for war crime being responsible for killing up to 1 million Ukrainians and Russians, but it is not realistic to happen.
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Nice job, Professor Diesen! Good discussion. Nice to see. Do you not wish people would stop asking you to predict what trump will do? It wastes so much valuable time during these all too short interviews and discussions. I did enjoy all three interviewees but Diesen takes the prize for rational discourse.
Ulrich Bruckner appears to be living in dreamland. Is he a bona-fide public intellectual, or just a spokesperson for a delusional EU?
Yes he is an EU asset. As soon as moderator said he's at Stanford, I guessed that would be his stance, and that was borne out - he pretends the history of this conflict began in 2/22!
There is no room and there should not be any room for compromise in the negotiations for peace in Ukraine.
Every single issue is crucial and nessessory.
This was a very interesting conversation — different voices. Thank you, Glenn.
According to French MSM and other less right sources, US had enough investing in a never ending Ukrainian war, even without Uncle Sam, NATO or what will be left of it, even the collapsing EU economy, they want to continue after all Ukrainians are spent. And one of the journalists put it right, the longer they defend the Atlantic wall, the stronger China becomes in the Pacific, and that’s where the real war, economic, geopolitical, military will take place.
[FYI, you have a typo at the end of the opening paragraph: "and were is there room for compromise?"]
The bigger problem for Russia is what the Kremlin has already conceded before they even start "negotiations".
Given everything that has happened, the absolute minimal condition for victory is the end of Ukrainian statehood, and even that won't really suffice for true victory.
Which is:
1) completely unacceptable to the West
2) not something the Kremlin is even remotely voicing as an objective.
But the original goals of the SMO are in fact exactly equivalent to ending Ukrainian statehood, because there can be no Ukraine that is not a Nazi state hyper-militarized against Russia. It has no other basis for its existence. Every single Ukrainian national hero is a Nazi, even the ones from the WWI era (who were, if you look at their positions, true Nazis quite some time before the Germans), and the current war has only cemented that as something irreversible.
If one is in Russia right now, there should be absolute seeting with anger about both the way the war has been conducted (Putin has the power to end it with full victory in days if he wishes to exercise it, but he preferred to spend three years in industrial slaughter of the working class on both sides; why?), and the fact that there are any "negotiations" now.
Negotiate over what exactly? Nothing else but surrender terms for Russia given where the front lines run at the moment...
Little Z won elections bc of his platform to resolve issues on the East of the cuntry.
My take is that majority of ordinary Ukrainians are considering ruskies as brothers and that overwhelming majority do not support UkroNazis. Little Z knows this, combined with war fatigue and huge loss of life it makes him resent elections as someone might rise above and actually make peace with ruskies. A peace which would see all Ruskie goals achieved and Ukraina to become denzified and unified.
Alas... it's a dream...
I am not sure it is a majority at this point.
There has been too much brainwashing.
But whatever it is, unless Moscow takes over in full soon, it will shrink to zero quite quickly, and the process of total Banderization will be completed.
I look at Germany post WW2 for cues. Danzification has profound effects and when Banderites are fully removed, country lustrated and guns silence, people return to what/who truly they are (just another version of Ruskies).
The risk of permanent nazification comes from Ukraina ending up the way of western Jewgoslavia republics - by winning the proxy war.
I do agree that the Big P needs to advance a bit faster, before his own people become SMO-fatigued.
I wonder who owns or will own what will be left of Ukraine. I hear so much about U.S. corporations owning a lot of land and resources. Would Ukrainians be better off owned by U.S. corps or by Russia? U.S. is declining - we see what that does for U.S. citzens. I wonder. How many Ukrainians think they would be better off as part of a rising power than a sabotaged state owned by a failing one?
That's the thing, it won't be a rising power if a deal is made along the current front lines. That will be a catastrophic strategic defeat