About a trade deal between Britain and the US. Britain has a big trade deficit with the US, can't see why Trump would bother slapping tariffs on it. Trump will be the gainer from any trade deal because it is more than likely to consolidate the process whereby the NHS has been opened up to US health insurance firms and other private health companies.
Which part of Trump and Putin trying to come to a post-Cold War architecture for a durable peace in Europe (PEACE IN EUROPE: UNDERSTAND?) do you dumbarse Brits not like, and why?
No don't even bother replying. I'm not interested. I'd get more sense out of my horse.
I'm a Brit. IMO this is all wrong. Ukraine is not winning the war, but nor has it lost it. The belief is that the Russian economy cannot continue the war for more than another year. If Trump disengages, the Europeans will continue to arm Ukraine and support its economy but not decisively due to resource issues. The most probable trajectory is that the war grinds to a halt.
Trump berrated Zelensky as having no cards to play in negotiations. But Trump gave away all the cards before negotiations even started, Ukraine to give up territory, no NATO membership, new economic relationship with the US, with sanctions lifted. As a result it looks like Russian is just making further demands. What Trump actually meant in the Oval office embarrassment was we want you to sign this minerals deal but you'll get out of this whatever we offer, and think yourself lucky if you get any security guarantees.
Trump has consistently adopted both Russian propaganda positions and demands. This is why he is significantly damaging NATO and the broader democratic alliance. The increasing view in Europe is that this is because Trump's instincts are autocratic and this is the direction in which he and the Republican party are taking America. There is a consensus involving most European governments around this and Starmer is not going to abandon that consensus for a US trade deal.
I’m a Brit and am fully aware that this is absolute nonsense.
America and other western nations have been interfering in Ukraine and other countries on the periphery of Russia since the 1950s. The CIA and fake NGOs working hard to spread pax Americana to enforce a unipolar world. Trump is working to end the conflict wrongly started by the actions of his predecessors.
The war started 11 years ago after the CIA/MI6 backed Maidan coup in Kiev by Banderite Nazi nationalists. These nationalists and their western backers are the aggressors. We’ve wrongly been supporting them in their efforts to cleanse Ukraine of ethnic Russians.
After the 2014 CIA Maiden coup in Kiev the ethnic Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk wanted nothing more to do with the Ukrainian government, voting democratically to secede and become separate republics. For this act the wonderful Ukrainian government shelled them and attacked them by other means, killing thousands of civilians. This shelling intensified in February 2022 causing Russia to fully intervene. When Russia organised a referendum for them to join Russia, they celebrated and voted overwhelmingly to do so.
- 15.02.22: The OSCE recorded 41 ceasefire violations as the AFU began heavy shelling of Donbass.
- 16.02: 76 violations.
- 17.02: 316 violations. The most intense artillery shelling in recent years was recorded, and civilians from the DPR and LPR began evacuating to Russia.
- 18.02: 654 violations.
- 19.02: 1,413 violations.
- 20-21.02: 2,026 violations!
- 21.02: Russia recognizes the LPR and DPR, promising military assistance to these republics. The US and the EU condemn Russia and threaten new sanctions for violating the Minsk agreements. Why don’t the US and the EU see the artillery shelling by the AFU?
- 22.02: 1,484 violations.
- On the same day, the UK, the US, and the EU impose sanctions against Russia for recognizing the LPR and DPR.
- 24.02: Russian troops cross the border.
Between 2014 and 2022, the Ukrainian army grew from 145,000 to 360,000 troops. By the end of 2021, the AFU had concentrated 125,000 troops in the East, preparing to destroy the LPR and DPR and advance to Russia’s borders.
"The increasing view in Europe is that this is because Trump's instincts are autocratic and this is the direction in which he and the Republican party are taking America. There is a consensus involving most European governments around this and Starmer is not going to abandon that consensus for a US trade deal....."
Its not an incrasing view in Europe.
Its a propaganda talking point issue dictated from Langley, VA to European tools like Starmer, Von der Leyen, Baerbock, Rutte, Macron, Stoltenberg, Kallas etc. Zelensky is also handled by them.
The UK's economy and finances are royally screwed. And a "trade deal" would the US would actually result a further reduction of local labour income and and further privatisation of a powder keg of society racked with inequality that has had mass race riots recently and had minority youths rioting against police repression several in the past decade. What on earth would be the benefit for the masses of British people in this?
Moreover autocracy is MORE attractive to the masses in Europe these days. Parliamentary democracies are patently failing them, and the US and their own mis-leaders have spents sveral years now branding neo-nazism in Ukraine as "patriotic" and funding and arming it and waving the flags of a country run by a dictator in military fatigues who has repressed all opposition in his country and refuses to hold elections.
You should aks yourself if this this makes autocracy less attractive at home....or MORE atractive. That answer is fairly obvious.
Worse yet is the laughable idea that these European mis-leaders dislike autocracy, when they have also spend the last two years serving Israel's genocidal agenda and cracking on on THEIR OWN citizens who protest this horrific policy. In the UK journalists like Asa Winstanly and Richard Medhurst are being slapped with terrorism changes for writing about this. Is this democratic? Or autocratic?
The vassals in Brussels and the national capitals are living in a bubble. And its bursting. Fast. Because their gaslighting act is no longer working.
And then you capped it by lying. I said the Ukrainian regime has neonazis in it and that these people, such as the Azov Battalion and thr Right Sector have been platformed and hailed, though their genocidal attacks in eastern Ukraine and all. Since 2011 actually, and at the very least 2014. And given weapons and cover for a decade now. Cheered on, all over Europe. In the US and even in the Canadian parliament.
About a trade deal between Britain and the US. Britain has a big trade deficit with the US, can't see why Trump would bother slapping tariffs on it. Trump will be the gainer from any trade deal because it is more than likely to consolidate the process whereby the NHS has been opened up to US health insurance firms and other private health companies.
Which part of Trump and Putin trying to come to a post-Cold War architecture for a durable peace in Europe (PEACE IN EUROPE: UNDERSTAND?) do you dumbarse Brits not like, and why?
No don't even bother replying. I'm not interested. I'd get more sense out of my horse.
I'm a Brit. IMO this is all wrong. Ukraine is not winning the war, but nor has it lost it. The belief is that the Russian economy cannot continue the war for more than another year. If Trump disengages, the Europeans will continue to arm Ukraine and support its economy but not decisively due to resource issues. The most probable trajectory is that the war grinds to a halt.
Trump berrated Zelensky as having no cards to play in negotiations. But Trump gave away all the cards before negotiations even started, Ukraine to give up territory, no NATO membership, new economic relationship with the US, with sanctions lifted. As a result it looks like Russian is just making further demands. What Trump actually meant in the Oval office embarrassment was we want you to sign this minerals deal but you'll get out of this whatever we offer, and think yourself lucky if you get any security guarantees.
Trump has consistently adopted both Russian propaganda positions and demands. This is why he is significantly damaging NATO and the broader democratic alliance. The increasing view in Europe is that this is because Trump's instincts are autocratic and this is the direction in which he and the Republican party are taking America. There is a consensus involving most European governments around this and Starmer is not going to abandon that consensus for a US trade deal.
I’m a Brit and am fully aware that this is absolute nonsense.
America and other western nations have been interfering in Ukraine and other countries on the periphery of Russia since the 1950s. The CIA and fake NGOs working hard to spread pax Americana to enforce a unipolar world. Trump is working to end the conflict wrongly started by the actions of his predecessors.
The war started 11 years ago after the CIA/MI6 backed Maidan coup in Kiev by Banderite Nazi nationalists. These nationalists and their western backers are the aggressors. We’ve wrongly been supporting them in their efforts to cleanse Ukraine of ethnic Russians.
After the 2014 CIA Maiden coup in Kiev the ethnic Russians in Donetsk and Luhansk wanted nothing more to do with the Ukrainian government, voting democratically to secede and become separate republics. For this act the wonderful Ukrainian government shelled them and attacked them by other means, killing thousands of civilians. This shelling intensified in February 2022 causing Russia to fully intervene. When Russia organised a referendum for them to join Russia, they celebrated and voted overwhelmingly to do so.
- 15.02.22: The OSCE recorded 41 ceasefire violations as the AFU began heavy shelling of Donbass.
- 16.02: 76 violations.
- 17.02: 316 violations. The most intense artillery shelling in recent years was recorded, and civilians from the DPR and LPR began evacuating to Russia.
- 18.02: 654 violations.
- 19.02: 1,413 violations.
- 20-21.02: 2,026 violations!
- 21.02: Russia recognizes the LPR and DPR, promising military assistance to these republics. The US and the EU condemn Russia and threaten new sanctions for violating the Minsk agreements. Why don’t the US and the EU see the artillery shelling by the AFU?
- 22.02: 1,484 violations.
- On the same day, the UK, the US, and the EU impose sanctions against Russia for recognizing the LPR and DPR.
- 24.02: Russian troops cross the border.
Between 2014 and 2022, the Ukrainian army grew from 145,000 to 360,000 troops. By the end of 2021, the AFU had concentrated 125,000 troops in the East, preparing to destroy the LPR and DPR and advance to Russia’s borders.
"The increasing view in Europe is that this is because Trump's instincts are autocratic and this is the direction in which he and the Republican party are taking America. There is a consensus involving most European governments around this and Starmer is not going to abandon that consensus for a US trade deal....."
Its not an incrasing view in Europe.
Its a propaganda talking point issue dictated from Langley, VA to European tools like Starmer, Von der Leyen, Baerbock, Rutte, Macron, Stoltenberg, Kallas etc. Zelensky is also handled by them.
The UK's economy and finances are royally screwed. And a "trade deal" would the US would actually result a further reduction of local labour income and and further privatisation of a powder keg of society racked with inequality that has had mass race riots recently and had minority youths rioting against police repression several in the past decade. What on earth would be the benefit for the masses of British people in this?
Moreover autocracy is MORE attractive to the masses in Europe these days. Parliamentary democracies are patently failing them, and the US and their own mis-leaders have spents sveral years now branding neo-nazism in Ukraine as "patriotic" and funding and arming it and waving the flags of a country run by a dictator in military fatigues who has repressed all opposition in his country and refuses to hold elections.
You should aks yourself if this this makes autocracy less attractive at home....or MORE atractive. That answer is fairly obvious.
Worse yet is the laughable idea that these European mis-leaders dislike autocracy, when they have also spend the last two years serving Israel's genocidal agenda and cracking on on THEIR OWN citizens who protest this horrific policy. In the UK journalists like Asa Winstanly and Richard Medhurst are being slapped with terrorism changes for writing about this. Is this democratic? Or autocratic?
The vassals in Brussels and the national capitals are living in a bubble. And its bursting. Fast. Because their gaslighting act is no longer working.
Your response is pretty typical of a certain point of view with the following common features:
1. Narrative incoherence
2. Cynicism about democratic states.
2. Appealing to both some far left and far right themes
3. A blind spot on Putin
4. Defence of Trump
5. Wild conspiracy theory (in this case the CIA running European head of government).
But its calling Zelensky a neo-nazi that really puts this in the camp of Russian influenced propaganda.
Well you didnt have anything to say other than personal insults.
And that's because the facts are damning.
In fact the US isnt a democratic state. Has not been.... for over a decade.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
https://archive.org/details/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc
That's fact.
And then you capped it by lying. I said the Ukrainian regime has neonazis in it and that these people, such as the Azov Battalion and thr Right Sector have been platformed and hailed, though their genocidal attacks in eastern Ukraine and all. Since 2011 actually, and at the very least 2014. And given weapons and cover for a decade now. Cheered on, all over Europe. In the US and even in the Canadian parliament.
That's fact:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict - Published - 13 December 2014
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/11/how-the-u-s-has-empowered-and-armed-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
´- Five years after the Maidan uprising, anti-Semitism and fascist-inflected ultranationalism are rampant. - Feb 22, 2019
https://www.reuters.com/article/opinion/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TC/
Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem - By Josh Cohen - March 20, 2018
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/07/22/mvxy-j22.html
Francis Fukuyama parades Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion at Stanford University by David Benson, Clara Weiss - 21 July 2023
https://forward.com/opinion/552958/why-did-stanford-host-azov-neo-nazis/
https://news.sky.com/story/canadian-parliaments-standing-ovation-for-former-nazi-soldier-was-deeply-embarrassing-trudeau-says-12970074
So doubling down on the gaslighting is of zero use. Zero.
Incedibly, autocracy has been embraced by European mis-leaders for several years now. And now the crows are coming home to roost. Enjoy.