President Putin has warned that the long-range precision missiles considered to be used against Russian territory will make NATO directly involved in the war.
The "salami slicing" style of escalation is exactly what the US did in Vietnam. Not until we had over 500,000 troops and the disaster of Tet did people start to wake up. The Vietnamese, of course, did not have nuclear weapons. We have long been governed by bellicose idiots, but this current lot are taking it to an entirely new, and terrifying, level. I can only hope that Russia can find ways to respond "horizontally" and that the missile strikes are ineffective. The strikes seem very unlikely to alter the course of the war on the ground in E. Ukraine. But doing something ineffective, escalatory, and vicious has long been our M.O. Watching it all unfold makes me wonder whether Homo Sapiens is an evolutionary cul-de-sac.
Excellent article ! It's a pity that not so much scholars have your clarity of mind. Reading your work i was thinking of these words by Mario Bunge :
"As with structure analysis so with meaning analysis: no genuine shade of meaning need remain uncovered if our analysis is pushed far enough.
The resulting depth of our analysis will depend on the power of the analytic tools we have employed.
What holds for logical form and for meaning holds for philosophical problems in general: if genuine they can be and ought to be tackled in an exact manner.
Even though some exact philosophers may lack the esprit de finesse characterizing some inexact philosophers, the problems the latter discover can only be solved with a pinch of esprit de géométrie."
I would say that you are an "exact" professor with a esprit de finesse 😉
Agree 💯 %. I don’t know what kind of relationship Russia and China have with Mexico 🇲🇽. But it could be a game changer if Russia / China make a joint venture with Mexico and they became a partner in BRICS. And then they install military bases with nuclear weapons in Mexico on the border to Texas and on Cuba close the Florida. It could be interesting to see how USA would react when they get same threats they are using on both Russia and China and other countries 😇
Watch China's exhibitions and other videos on you tube about the huge advances in China. There is no comparison between USA greatest cities and accomplishment with the Chinese. I concluded that China ALREADY left us in its dust. Our hegemony is mostly a history of the dominant dollars.
Hence the destruction of any government that threatened to trade in gold and/or NOT-USDs for Oil.
Such a move leads to immediate compromise of the USD and eventually total destruction.
When the neocons and neolibs call out China and Russia as the major threats to the "rules-based world order" they of course mean to their hegemony and all the power, pomp, privilege and pride it affords, but they're also accurate; these are the only nations strong enough to break out of the petrodollar without being easily "thrown against the wall to prove to the rest that we mean business" (the Ledeen Doctrine).
And hence BRICS, which is their gambit to break out of the petrodollar and thus break the hegemony of the US and her vassals in EU/NATO, AUKUS, ANZUS, Five Eyes, etc.
We'll, - yes. We in the west of Europe have too long accepted the orchestrated scenario fabricating "threat" from East. The Cold War was important for arms sales and the recent developments have escalated financial gain. So, a lot of influential people are making a lot of money from this war. The thousands of poor boys, sons , fathers and uncles , who are senselessly slaughtered and maimed on both sides are innocent victims in a grand game for money. The subject is extensive, - regarding involvement I would just add a perspective on the Norwegian role, since that aspect is so painful. Given the helpful and peaceful co-existence, especially the costly Soviet-Russian aid during the previous great war, as countless Red Army soldiers died when evicting the Wehrmacht in 1944-45. And the sinking of russian black sea fleet flagship Moscow obviously could have been executed by other rocket system than the ones which Norway is producing, but it is difficult to understand why Norwegian politicians allow the escalation. The refusal of western/ nordic politicians to participate in 2015 as Russia invited all state leaders to come commemorate the end of the senseless slaughtering in World War 2, that was an embarrassing insult. Not least to the memory of millions upon millions of dead soviet fathers, sons, uncles, brothers, husbands, - all families making sacrifice to free Europe from Nazism. We must eternally remember the evil of Hitler was stopped at the east front, by millions of soviet soldiers who gave their lives to end tyranny.
I have great pity for Russia and for Ukraine. Both are being played as marionette, -
Another great fear is the Sino-Russian axis, when the Chinese can no longer accept the threat of NATO winning in Russia and gaining access to all wealth of resources in world's grandest landmass, - a development which would effectively transpose the border between NATO and China to Mongolia, - fully unacceptable and surely Beijing will act long before such possibilities arise. I think the conflict may develop into use of long range rockets from both sides, some will be made in the US and some are sourced from elsewhere, possibly even some supplied by a China, unable to accept the development.
And obviously, your point about the constant NATO pushing against Russian red line, yes, it is madness manifested as very dangerous gambling for making money. I guess the producers of the "attac'ems" are exited to demonstrate the system in real action. They are probably buissy setting up cameras around Russian targets in order to capture good footage for the sales-catalogue advertising. It's leading us to destruction, just so they can earn more billions, to stack upon the billion billions which they already have. Complete absurdity. We could all be happily co-existing in a rich and peaceful and clean healthy safe world, in which all needy are cared for and everyone has a roof over their head and food on the table. But no, we have to accept that taxpayers money must now be prioritized for arms technology. Your tax money would previously get you schooling, Healthcare, cultur and environmental protection, - and lots of other welfare-state benefits, - but in the future our tax money will be diverted for arms industry. How can people of the free world accept this tyranny?? The greedy rich are squeezing every drop from the breast of Mother Earth, while malnourished hordes endure poison and filth, to produce the material lifestyle of the west, the entire world order is upside down and most people simply shut up and accept the situation
Bravo, Professor Diesen for dealing so adroitly with that repulsively aggressive, entitled interviewer on Al Jazeera ( I shouldn’t be surprised or irritated since it is Al Jazeera which fronts, in my view, the most obnoxious interviewers on the planet).
Until now I said that what the Western leaders are doing is stupid. But after hearing about the fact that Russia is doing what has did in the past in Moldova I can only say that both, NATO and Russia, are doing the same things they usually do. People here are discussing about the importance of peace. If president Putin crosses again this line, which is red line for the Romanians (from Romania and Moldova), nobody can say no to a war. Useless
Probably people like Macron wait for this to happen.
The problem is that most of the western world don’t know the truth about USA NATOs war against Russia in Ukraine They believe the fake propaganda in MSM and the lies their politicians tell them. Russia is the bad guys who unprovoked have attacked the innocent democracy Ukraine and if they defeat them they will attack NATO countries and start WW3. Therefore USA EU NATO have to help and support Ukraine in their fight for freedom and democracy That’s the lie they constantly tell the people
I am Russian and 100% agree with the notion that Russian state is a danger to the world and needs to be treated like a mad dog that needs to be shot in the day light for its own benefit to reduce its suffering.
Russia will be free when this state will collapse. Russians will be free in our own ethnic traditonal boundaries of Moscow + Nizhny Novgord regions. Other peoples of illegally occupied regions of Russia need to be liberated.
The days of the last Empire will come to an end, sooner or later.
Is a major European war in the long-term hegemonic interest of the Global American Empire? American global supremacy came after massive devastating war in Europe and Asia in the 1949s. Would another major European or East Asian war similarly re-cast the GAE as world hegemonic power, now that globalization, manufacturing, debt, currency, and energy control are weakening or even working against the Global American Empire?
The racism against Russia is the worst sort imaginable, as you've clearly delineated
Britain has had a hard-on for Russia for centuries. It's very strange.
Not strange. It’s called humiliation in Crimea.
I am Russian and never felt any racism in my entire life. Other than from Russian people against every single minority - Jews, Roma, Ukrainians, etc.
Tell me about your racist suffering, brother? Let's cry a river together.
>The argument that Ukraine has the right to defend itself is a very deceptive counterargument as nobody has disputed that Ukraine has this right
We actually do -- no state that is founded on a supremacist Nazi ideology has the right to exist. Ukraine is such a case.
Then there is the question of how legal the USSR breakup was to begin with.
What supremacist ideology is your nation founded on?
Please declare your own loyalties before asking others to accept your moral judgements of other nations.
As a practical matter no nation has any more rights than it is able to hold against those who would remove them.
The "salami slicing" style of escalation is exactly what the US did in Vietnam. Not until we had over 500,000 troops and the disaster of Tet did people start to wake up. The Vietnamese, of course, did not have nuclear weapons. We have long been governed by bellicose idiots, but this current lot are taking it to an entirely new, and terrifying, level. I can only hope that Russia can find ways to respond "horizontally" and that the missile strikes are ineffective. The strikes seem very unlikely to alter the course of the war on the ground in E. Ukraine. But doing something ineffective, escalatory, and vicious has long been our M.O. Watching it all unfold makes me wonder whether Homo Sapiens is an evolutionary cul-de-sac.
Exactly. The US has long history of proxy wars escalating.
Shame that not enough voters in America know this history but only the mythology.
Great article. Pity some people in charge in the UK don’t read it.
Excellent article ! It's a pity that not so much scholars have your clarity of mind. Reading your work i was thinking of these words by Mario Bunge :
"As with structure analysis so with meaning analysis: no genuine shade of meaning need remain uncovered if our analysis is pushed far enough.
The resulting depth of our analysis will depend on the power of the analytic tools we have employed.
What holds for logical form and for meaning holds for philosophical problems in general: if genuine they can be and ought to be tackled in an exact manner.
Even though some exact philosophers may lack the esprit de finesse characterizing some inexact philosophers, the problems the latter discover can only be solved with a pinch of esprit de géométrie."
I would say that you are an "exact" professor with a esprit de finesse 😉
Russia ALREADY have deployed nuclear and SARMAT in land, planes, subs and ships ALL READY and AIMED at US and NATO.
Such a “war” WILL END in only less than 30 minutes and neither US nor NATO would even know WTF happened, before their complete annihilation.
Agree 💯 %. I don’t know what kind of relationship Russia and China have with Mexico 🇲🇽. But it could be a game changer if Russia / China make a joint venture with Mexico and they became a partner in BRICS. And then they install military bases with nuclear weapons in Mexico on the border to Texas and on Cuba close the Florida. It could be interesting to see how USA would react when they get same threats they are using on both Russia and China and other countries 😇
We already know how they will react. Even the great liberal Kennedy threatened immediate launch.
The hegemon cannot tolerate rivals AND remain the hegemon.
Watch China's exhibitions and other videos on you tube about the huge advances in China. There is no comparison between USA greatest cities and accomplishment with the Chinese. I concluded that China ALREADY left us in its dust. Our hegemony is mostly a history of the dominant dollars.
Hence the destruction of any government that threatened to trade in gold and/or NOT-USDs for Oil.
Such a move leads to immediate compromise of the USD and eventually total destruction.
When the neocons and neolibs call out China and Russia as the major threats to the "rules-based world order" they of course mean to their hegemony and all the power, pomp, privilege and pride it affords, but they're also accurate; these are the only nations strong enough to break out of the petrodollar without being easily "thrown against the wall to prove to the rest that we mean business" (the Ledeen Doctrine).
And hence BRICS, which is their gambit to break out of the petrodollar and thus break the hegemony of the US and her vassals in EU/NATO, AUKUS, ANZUS, Five Eyes, etc.
Without being nuked into oblivion.
Is it going to work?
As I like to say; Time Will Tell.
We'll, - yes. We in the west of Europe have too long accepted the orchestrated scenario fabricating "threat" from East. The Cold War was important for arms sales and the recent developments have escalated financial gain. So, a lot of influential people are making a lot of money from this war. The thousands of poor boys, sons , fathers and uncles , who are senselessly slaughtered and maimed on both sides are innocent victims in a grand game for money. The subject is extensive, - regarding involvement I would just add a perspective on the Norwegian role, since that aspect is so painful. Given the helpful and peaceful co-existence, especially the costly Soviet-Russian aid during the previous great war, as countless Red Army soldiers died when evicting the Wehrmacht in 1944-45. And the sinking of russian black sea fleet flagship Moscow obviously could have been executed by other rocket system than the ones which Norway is producing, but it is difficult to understand why Norwegian politicians allow the escalation. The refusal of western/ nordic politicians to participate in 2015 as Russia invited all state leaders to come commemorate the end of the senseless slaughtering in World War 2, that was an embarrassing insult. Not least to the memory of millions upon millions of dead soviet fathers, sons, uncles, brothers, husbands, - all families making sacrifice to free Europe from Nazism. We must eternally remember the evil of Hitler was stopped at the east front, by millions of soviet soldiers who gave their lives to end tyranny.
I have great pity for Russia and for Ukraine. Both are being played as marionette, -
Another great fear is the Sino-Russian axis, when the Chinese can no longer accept the threat of NATO winning in Russia and gaining access to all wealth of resources in world's grandest landmass, - a development which would effectively transpose the border between NATO and China to Mongolia, - fully unacceptable and surely Beijing will act long before such possibilities arise. I think the conflict may develop into use of long range rockets from both sides, some will be made in the US and some are sourced from elsewhere, possibly even some supplied by a China, unable to accept the development.
And obviously, your point about the constant NATO pushing against Russian red line, yes, it is madness manifested as very dangerous gambling for making money. I guess the producers of the "attac'ems" are exited to demonstrate the system in real action. They are probably buissy setting up cameras around Russian targets in order to capture good footage for the sales-catalogue advertising. It's leading us to destruction, just so they can earn more billions, to stack upon the billion billions which they already have. Complete absurdity. We could all be happily co-existing in a rich and peaceful and clean healthy safe world, in which all needy are cared for and everyone has a roof over their head and food on the table. But no, we have to accept that taxpayers money must now be prioritized for arms technology. Your tax money would previously get you schooling, Healthcare, cultur and environmental protection, - and lots of other welfare-state benefits, - but in the future our tax money will be diverted for arms industry. How can people of the free world accept this tyranny?? The greedy rich are squeezing every drop from the breast of Mother Earth, while malnourished hordes endure poison and filth, to produce the material lifestyle of the west, the entire world order is upside down and most people simply shut up and accept the situation
Bravo, Professor Diesen for dealing so adroitly with that repulsively aggressive, entitled interviewer on Al Jazeera ( I shouldn’t be surprised or irritated since it is Al Jazeera which fronts, in my view, the most obnoxious interviewers on the planet).
‘ ...being considered for deployment...’, perhaps🙂
Why is the Aegis missile defense system an issue? This looks more like Russian propaganda.
Until now I said that what the Western leaders are doing is stupid. But after hearing about the fact that Russia is doing what has did in the past in Moldova I can only say that both, NATO and Russia, are doing the same things they usually do. People here are discussing about the importance of peace. If president Putin crosses again this line, which is red line for the Romanians (from Romania and Moldova), nobody can say no to a war. Useless
Probably people like Macron wait for this to happen.
Thanks for sharing Glenn
The problem is that most of the western world don’t know the truth about USA NATOs war against Russia in Ukraine They believe the fake propaganda in MSM and the lies their politicians tell them. Russia is the bad guys who unprovoked have attacked the innocent democracy Ukraine and if they defeat them they will attack NATO countries and start WW3. Therefore USA EU NATO have to help and support Ukraine in their fight for freedom and democracy That’s the lie they constantly tell the people
I am Russian and 100% agree with the notion that Russian state is a danger to the world and needs to be treated like a mad dog that needs to be shot in the day light for its own benefit to reduce its suffering.
Russia will be free when this state will collapse. Russians will be free in our own ethnic traditonal boundaries of Moscow + Nizhny Novgord regions. Other peoples of illegally occupied regions of Russia need to be liberated.
The days of the last Empire will come to an end, sooner or later.
Dear sir, I have a question-
Is a major European war in the long-term hegemonic interest of the Global American Empire? American global supremacy came after massive devastating war in Europe and Asia in the 1949s. Would another major European or East Asian war similarly re-cast the GAE as world hegemonic power, now that globalization, manufacturing, debt, currency, and energy control are weakening or even working against the Global American Empire?
American dollar is a has been.
Yet another final, final warning from Putin.
Maybe in your eyes. Ar no point has Russia said what they have said over the last two days. "If you do this, we are at war."
Russia never backs down.
Does the West have the stomach for missiles dropping in their countries? I seriously doubt it.