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William Bowles's avatar

Well it always does and it always has.,. What do they say: The first casualty of war is the truth.

Kathleen McCroskey's avatar

Thank you, Glenn! The War Machine NEEDS the media to convince the population of the need for (forever) wars.

Misha's avatar

On linkedin nobody dares to like this video, implicitly confirming its Truth

Moebius Infinity's avatar

Cause and effect.

To achieve an effect then create a cause.

Problem reaction solution

Marc Colombet's avatar

Great discussion with a lot of food for thought. Shared in all my platforms. Thanks

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Brian Berletic has been informing us about the NGOs for years now. He has been on your show and he is quite right.

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

The mainstream media bias is almost Pavlovian, is it not?

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Thank you so much, Mr. Baab! I keep trying to inform people here in the U.S. about the history of the war in Ukraine and get vilified and condemned for doing so. I will share this discussion widely.

Dermot O'Sullivan's avatar

A late Soviet era joke went as follows:

Windscreen wipers were being installed on TV sets because people were constantly spitting at the screen in reaction to the official party line they were getting. I think we've reached that level here in the west in recent years.

P.S. excellent guest and discussion.

2033ICP's avatar

Perfect observation of both of you.

“Kali Yuga” is the ancient Indian explanation of the dark time period we currently are living in which points out that evil forces rule the world and decide the current narrative. This period of evil and ignorance has lasted for over 5 thousand years and is now fading away and we now enters a period of much turmoil of conflict between good and evil for approximately 300 years before the world will balance itself out of evil narcissistic dominance. This cycle of different time periods lasts for about 24 thousand years before it repeats itself.

This is one perspective from the “ancient Indian gods” in the Vedic transcriptions which are more than 5 thousand years old and probably much much older because the scriptures (Mahabharata) also are describing powerful weapons and nuclear warfare between the victorious Krishna and the evil demonic empire.

Doft Gos's avatar

Great discussion. Baab and Diesen dissect calmly but devastatingly the perniciousness of our ruling elites and their propagandistic shills in the mainstream media. Meanwhile millions die, with more millions being recruited to die in the future. I can hardly believe that Filipinos would willingly go to Ukraine to die on behalf of NATO. Yet that seems to be in the works, after the available cannon fodder from Columbia and elsewhere are drying up. As Baab correctly indicated, fundamental opposition to this corrupt and wicked elite is the only way forward.

Per Dørup's avatar

Right, most people here in Denmark are brainwashed by the one-sided Ukraine-propaganda and hate speech against Russia that all politicians from right to left and their media indoctrinate them with from morning

to evening.

When I try to discuss with them, they are totally resistant to counter-arguments and just repeat what they have heard from their politicians and media - that I support the dictator and tyrant in Moscow. They should be informed, but don't seem to know anything about the background and context of the war. Russia and Nato has expanded since the Cold War. No, the US was not involved in the Maidan- coup. The Nazi regime in Kiev is freedom fighters and democratic, etc.

And they repeat the same things they have heard from these sources about the Syrian "dictator", Assad and Libya. They simply think that it was good that Nato destroyed these societies in order to get rid of the dictator.

paul fuhs's avatar

people should get Glenn's book The Think Tank Racket for more detail.

George's avatar

Other good reading from 40 years ago is 'Money and Power' and 'Propaganda, The Formation of Men's Attitudes' by the prophetic Jacques Ellul. It covers the same ground.

F. J. N.'s avatar

i propose to read from all sides. Free Press journalist, Russian, Chinese press and f.e. ,All Jazeera !

Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

Yes, Prof. Diesen. Your Wikipedia entry is total nonsense. I was shocked.

LadyHistorian's avatar

For many years, the NYT functioned under an agreement with the Government of the USSR to publish only articles approved by the Soviet censors.

LadyHistorian's avatar

The Revolution of Dignity was a spontaneous protest that threw off a corrupt president—another one of those with a gold toilet and golf clubs. Yanukovych fled to Russia—coincidentally