the political class no longer even has legitmate existence as it is. Its a criminal mafia. Our system of governance is completely outdated and was shortly after its inauguration with the Parliamentary system - invented by England and copied throughout. We need an order that places equal power in the hands of the people - another word is workers. The ministries should be run by workers - and they rotate in and out so none become bureaucrats Politicians and world leaders should have no power over the economy or culture and Finance( economy ) should have no power over culture. or the military. Rudolf Steiner called it the Threefold Social Order. The Three are the Economy - the Government and Culture. Fraternity Equality and Liberty. His book is now called Towards Social Renewal It seems to me, the military and police have to be the government branch. Jails and courts perhaps though, have to be in the hands of culture. As are universities and hospitals.
Iran's structure of governance is interesting but in the west of course the Religious factor in control would be abused. In the West it has to be workers in control - in other words - the People.
re Threefold Social Order - Actually, state, legal and education, and the real workings of the economy are through the education system, which funds student's progress in their career interests, with funds returned upon death.
honestly - no need to correct me Kathleen. So picky - that's why it hasn't moved forward - people can't get along. I don't say you're wrong - just working against me instead of with me. The Threefold Social Order is big enough for everyone's ideas.
maybe its the way you phrased it But how obvious it already is why the west is on the warpath. We don't work together like the east does. We're all out for only ourselves.
The notion of an East - West dichotomy is not helpful. It's obviously inaccurate, a faction. There are plenty of schisms, rivalries and hostilities in the so-called East.
Thank you for referencing Steiner’s work, most people have never heard about it, - and he invented the “biodynamic” framing methods. But the Threefold Social Order really needs either a single, closed society or implement for the entire planet, since it doesn’t accommodate immigration -how could a newcomer pay into the system the way that present citizens have done? A primary feature is forward-funding of success rather than debt financing, which is the demise of present civilization. But this can be done without the mystical themes, simply by moving a central bank to the center of the economy to directly fund the economy, which I outline here: https://kathleenmccroskey.substack.com/i/174268640/our-feature-presentation
I'll have a look - but there is definitely a way to make the Threefold Social Order work - Rudolf Steiner was trying to explain that humanity cannot progress until the oligarchs are caged by laws that protect the people. He didn't specific anything in sharp outline though and it can fit anyway we can make it. Its just the three different aspects of a civilization - the economy - the governance (rights ) and the Culture ( others have used the word ' people' instead of culture) are equally powerful and cannot encroach upon any other - Trump affecting the economy couldn't happen....I mean we hire these politicians who come out of shady backgrounds - and give them the keys to the treasury and the culture and the military for 4 years and maybe 8 years and then they disappear....its insane.
Yes, exactly right - ending debt-based economy means ending the rule of the oligarchs (banking class). And the system which allows a moron to be in charge is what makes America not agreement-capable. Administrative churn allows ideologues to grab the levers of power.
totally. Shrinking government officials. The ' world leaders ' are the ones ruining everything - I mean not so much Xi and Putin - they're saviors - and Traore in Africa - but if we had ministries run by workers...and the military was a branch - I mean I've read the Threefold Social order and Steiner says the government is in charge of the miilitary - meaning the military is part of the Rights sphere - but that won't work with politicians. I have even wondered if the military was its own branch of the TFSO - but the courts would have to be in the ministries I guess - the Ministry of Law. - its complex and the world needs to get onto this. Richard Werner is very interesting becasue he's trying to start a small independent bank. That sounds like a good idea. Glenn should interview Richard Werner And I think Daniel Glanzer might be a good guest too. Get away from all these ex-CIA guys.
"How do we achieve peace and order in a post-hegemonic world?" To answer this requires American Exceptionalism and hegemony off the table, and a "collective security" for all nations, meaning RESPECT for each other and actual dialogue to handle any frictions.
The Hypocrisy and double-standard of the USA and its "Humble Servants" in the EU is mindblowing.
At the end of WW2, in 1945, the European "peninsula" was occupied from the West by the USA and from the East by the USSR. They have not only occupied these territories but also imposed their Political Dominance over these countries, while trying to create the "Impression of Freedom".
It is a less know fact, that the USSR wanted to withdraw from East Europe in early 1950's but under certain conditions (demilitarization and reciprocal withdrawal of the USA). Those conditions were denied by the USA. So, the USSR withdrew only from Austria in 1955, but kept their presence in East Europe.
The history of East European states is completely unaware of this fact. They complain about the Soviet Occupation, while “conveniently forgetting” the root causes (the brutal attack against the USSR by Germany and its many allies, some coerced some not). But they lack the fact that the “Soviet Occupation was extended by the unwillingnes to withdraw by the USA.
After 1989, the USSR decided to unilaterally withdraw —under conditions of "NATO not an inch to the East"— from East Europe, and allow the re-unification of Germany. The USA did not reciprocate that withdrawal but maintained (and then expanded) their Economic, Cultural, Intelligence dominance over West Europe.
In a "Mass Stockholm Syndrome" the West European populaces don't even realize the amplitude of this Dominance that did impose strong restrictions on the Political life of West European Countries (See Greece, Italy, France, Germany, "Operation Gladio", etc.)
They did NOT only maintain their dominance but continued to expand it against frequently repeated Russian opposition, opposition which they arrogantly disconsidered.
Now we have War and the USA does not see any fault in their Ruthless Expansionism (and blame their Vassals for it). Brutal Hypocrisy.
This relentless expansionism, hypocrisy and double-standards is now causing major problems and risks into expanding into WW3. The European Vassals just repeat the Propaganda favorable to the USA expansionism, while denying the hypocrisy and double-standards they support, blaming all this War on Russia.
I am just listening to the Romanian FM, Oana Țoiu, reciting her ”verse and chapter” of the Anti-Russian Holy Scripture.
In response to your question -- “The most important question of social systems is what creates order by managing competing interests?” -- I believe that James Madison words provide the answer. Rather than worrying about managing “competing security interests” on the international stage, Madison explained that we should be more worried about the “security against a gradual concentration of . . . powers” in the hands of government. (Madison, The Federalist Papers, Ltr. 51, ¶4) He went on to explain that “In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.” (Id.) “Theoretic politicians,” he explained, “have erroneously supposed that” government could reduce “mankind to a perfect equality.” (Madison, The Federalist Papers, Ltr. 10, ¶13)
Those same theoreticians, as you noted, believed that they could bring this equality through “advancing liberal democratic values” in the Post Cold War Era. Madison, on the hand, argued that it was the Republican Form of Government created by the U.S. Constitution that “promises the cure for controlling competing factions.” (Id. ¶14) Unfortunately, we as the United States destroyed that Republican Form of Government described in Article IV, §4 of the U.S. Constitution with our “democracy.” Democracies, he explained, “can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction.” (Id. ¶13)
In our original Republican Form of Government, Madison explained, “The different governments will control each other, at the same time that each will be controlled by itself.” (Madison, The Federalist Papers, Ltr. 51, ¶9.) He referred to this as a “double security.”
What nobody understands anymore is that we destroyed this “double security” when we began to democratize Presidential elections beginning in 1824 and Senatorial elections in 1913. These two changes destroyed the “double security,” and the states completely lost their ability to control the national government and halt the concentration of power in D.C. These two changes took the power and placed it in the hands of the political parties and they have been controlling the national government and concentrating power into the hands of the national government ever since that time. It was the concentration of political power into the hands of the few that destroyed our security and the international security as well.
In the Netherlands a politician, Pim Fortuyn was several years ago being shot dead. While he was not in favour of buying American Joint Strike Fighters.
But now we have hundreds of political warmongers who destroy the entire country. But nobody is shoouting them.
So that the supposed killer was a lone nutter is bullshit.
The article provides insight into the cluster of strategic, ideological, and geopolitical insecurities generating anxiety across Western capitals, including within Trump’s own administration, while also illuminating the political oxygen being given to his increasingly delusional and mercurial policies.
It further sheds light on the deliberate cultivation of agents of chaos in strategic trade nodes such as Nigeria and in European settler outposts such as South Africa, through the deployment of the empire’s tried-and-tested ‘Color/Leopard Revolution’ playbook of regime change, political destabilisation, and divide-and-rule tactics.
Within this logic, local proxies such as Afrophobic March and March and AfriForum are positioned to function as rapidly mobilising fifth-column networks, aimed at fracturing the domestic foundations of states associated with the emerging multipolar order and, in turn, slowing the consolidation of BRICS and the broader transition of global power from Western primacy, to the East.
Agents of chaos indeed; why else did the US recently open a consulate in the middle of the desert? https://www.consulate-info.com/consulate/31697/United-States-in-Dakhla. Add to that the recent influx of big Israeli investments there... and you can spot trouble on the horizon years ahead. My bet would be another US Nordstream moment, but now on the Southern Algerian oil pipes running North... to Europe... No money in that for the US and friends, yet...so the pipes must change direction...West, to the new port of Dakhla....and Europe keeps on sleeping.
I fundamentally trust the people in the streets in the western countries who does not want war and probably will oppose a calling to arms if challenged. Then the elites will loose their power and must step down. The alternative is the end of planet Earth
I think you underestimate how propaganda works. Today, it is our most evolved form of politics. Watch Prof. Kees van de Pijl explain one recent example that did exactly what it was designed to do and was backed by the US majority. Even before AI, smart people could always fool the masses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOtdeewC93Q
Well said as far as it goes, but neglects an important dimension which is mounting civil strife and even civil war in Western countries as more suffer the consequences and see the futility of warmongering. The reaction has already begun in several countries, each in its own way and attempts to suppress it will only serve to make our real enemies more evident.
Ahhhhh someone who is mentally ill should thinks that pro-violent, pro-baby killing, and pro-illegal immigration is perfectly fine and isn’t far left? Maybe you should go get help because you’re mentally retarded and think up is down and wrong is right.
Why do? Did I hurt your feelings while you decide which pronouns you’re going to use tomorrow as you pick out what you’re going to wear at the anti-ICE rally?
"A hegemonic system does manage competing security interests of states, rather it seeks stability, order and peace through dominance." I think you meant to write, "does not manage".
“A hegemonic system does manage competing security interests of states, rather it seeks stability, order and peace through dominance.”Did you mean “does not?”
War is the moment humanity forgets itself. It begins long before the first shot—inside wounded egos, old grievances, and leaders who mistake fear for strength. On the ground, it turns ordinary people into ghosts of who they were, scattering families, futures, and innocence. War pretends to solve problems by destroying everything that could have solved them. clarity cuts through the illusion: conflict is never between nations, only between minds lost in separation. When separation dissolves, war has no oxygen left to burn.
Though I would frame the problem not as difference itself, but as what happens when distinction becomes separation. Nations, groups and individuals are distinct, but they are never really independent of the relations that shape their security, interests and behavior.
The difficulty is that once we organize the world through separation, locally rational actions can begin producing collectively irrational outcomes - and each side can then generate evidence confirming why the other is a threat. That is where war can become self-reproducing long before anyone consciously chooses it.
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As excellent an interviewer as Glenn Diesen is... he is an even better journalist.
What a high-quality piece of journalism.
the political class no longer even has legitmate existence as it is. Its a criminal mafia. Our system of governance is completely outdated and was shortly after its inauguration with the Parliamentary system - invented by England and copied throughout. We need an order that places equal power in the hands of the people - another word is workers. The ministries should be run by workers - and they rotate in and out so none become bureaucrats Politicians and world leaders should have no power over the economy or culture and Finance( economy ) should have no power over culture. or the military. Rudolf Steiner called it the Threefold Social Order. The Three are the Economy - the Government and Culture. Fraternity Equality and Liberty. His book is now called Towards Social Renewal It seems to me, the military and police have to be the government branch. Jails and courts perhaps though, have to be in the hands of culture. As are universities and hospitals.
Iran's structure of governance is interesting but in the west of course the Religious factor in control would be abused. In the West it has to be workers in control - in other words - the People.
re Threefold Social Order - Actually, state, legal and education, and the real workings of the economy are through the education system, which funds student's progress in their career interests, with funds returned upon death.
honestly - no need to correct me Kathleen. So picky - that's why it hasn't moved forward - people can't get along. I don't say you're wrong - just working against me instead of with me. The Threefold Social Order is big enough for everyone's ideas.
Who is against you? Imagining threats like USA?
maybe its the way you phrased it But how obvious it already is why the west is on the warpath. We don't work together like the east does. We're all out for only ourselves.
The notion of an East - West dichotomy is not helpful. It's obviously inaccurate, a faction. There are plenty of schisms, rivalries and hostilities in the so-called East.
The computer changed "fiction" to "faction." I checked, and it tried to do it again.
Its very helpful. Its all encompassing. The Polarity between east and west runs so deep Like the sunrise and the sunset. Fire and Form
Thank you for referencing Steiner’s work, most people have never heard about it, - and he invented the “biodynamic” framing methods. But the Threefold Social Order really needs either a single, closed society or implement for the entire planet, since it doesn’t accommodate immigration -how could a newcomer pay into the system the way that present citizens have done? A primary feature is forward-funding of success rather than debt financing, which is the demise of present civilization. But this can be done without the mystical themes, simply by moving a central bank to the center of the economy to directly fund the economy, which I outline here: https://kathleenmccroskey.substack.com/i/174268640/our-feature-presentation
I'll have a look - but there is definitely a way to make the Threefold Social Order work - Rudolf Steiner was trying to explain that humanity cannot progress until the oligarchs are caged by laws that protect the people. He didn't specific anything in sharp outline though and it can fit anyway we can make it. Its just the three different aspects of a civilization - the economy - the governance (rights ) and the Culture ( others have used the word ' people' instead of culture) are equally powerful and cannot encroach upon any other - Trump affecting the economy couldn't happen....I mean we hire these politicians who come out of shady backgrounds - and give them the keys to the treasury and the culture and the military for 4 years and maybe 8 years and then they disappear....its insane.
Yes, exactly right - ending debt-based economy means ending the rule of the oligarchs (banking class). And the system which allows a moron to be in charge is what makes America not agreement-capable. Administrative churn allows ideologues to grab the levers of power.
totally. Shrinking government officials. The ' world leaders ' are the ones ruining everything - I mean not so much Xi and Putin - they're saviors - and Traore in Africa - but if we had ministries run by workers...and the military was a branch - I mean I've read the Threefold Social order and Steiner says the government is in charge of the miilitary - meaning the military is part of the Rights sphere - but that won't work with politicians. I have even wondered if the military was its own branch of the TFSO - but the courts would have to be in the ministries I guess - the Ministry of Law. - its complex and the world needs to get onto this. Richard Werner is very interesting becasue he's trying to start a small independent bank. That sounds like a good idea. Glenn should interview Richard Werner And I think Daniel Glanzer might be a good guest too. Get away from all these ex-CIA guys.
It's gonna be the great war that will end all wars!
Yeah, I remember that (world war) one.
"How do we achieve peace and order in a post-hegemonic world?" To answer this requires American Exceptionalism and hegemony off the table, and a "collective security" for all nations, meaning RESPECT for each other and actual dialogue to handle any frictions.
The Hypocrisy and double-standard of the USA and its "Humble Servants" in the EU is mindblowing.
At the end of WW2, in 1945, the European "peninsula" was occupied from the West by the USA and from the East by the USSR. They have not only occupied these territories but also imposed their Political Dominance over these countries, while trying to create the "Impression of Freedom".
It is a less know fact, that the USSR wanted to withdraw from East Europe in early 1950's but under certain conditions (demilitarization and reciprocal withdrawal of the USA). Those conditions were denied by the USA. So, the USSR withdrew only from Austria in 1955, but kept their presence in East Europe.
The history of East European states is completely unaware of this fact. They complain about the Soviet Occupation, while “conveniently forgetting” the root causes (the brutal attack against the USSR by Germany and its many allies, some coerced some not). But they lack the fact that the “Soviet Occupation was extended by the unwillingnes to withdraw by the USA.
After 1989, the USSR decided to unilaterally withdraw —under conditions of "NATO not an inch to the East"— from East Europe, and allow the re-unification of Germany. The USA did not reciprocate that withdrawal but maintained (and then expanded) their Economic, Cultural, Intelligence dominance over West Europe.
In a "Mass Stockholm Syndrome" the West European populaces don't even realize the amplitude of this Dominance that did impose strong restrictions on the Political life of West European Countries (See Greece, Italy, France, Germany, "Operation Gladio", etc.)
They did NOT only maintain their dominance but continued to expand it against frequently repeated Russian opposition, opposition which they arrogantly disconsidered.
Now we have War and the USA does not see any fault in their Ruthless Expansionism (and blame their Vassals for it). Brutal Hypocrisy.
This relentless expansionism, hypocrisy and double-standards is now causing major problems and risks into expanding into WW3. The European Vassals just repeat the Propaganda favorable to the USA expansionism, while denying the hypocrisy and double-standards they support, blaming all this War on Russia.
I am just listening to the Romanian FM, Oana Țoiu, reciting her ”verse and chapter” of the Anti-Russian Holy Scripture.
Brutal Hypocrisy.
In response to your question -- “The most important question of social systems is what creates order by managing competing interests?” -- I believe that James Madison words provide the answer. Rather than worrying about managing “competing security interests” on the international stage, Madison explained that we should be more worried about the “security against a gradual concentration of . . . powers” in the hands of government. (Madison, The Federalist Papers, Ltr. 51, ¶4) He went on to explain that “In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.” (Id.) “Theoretic politicians,” he explained, “have erroneously supposed that” government could reduce “mankind to a perfect equality.” (Madison, The Federalist Papers, Ltr. 10, ¶13)
Those same theoreticians, as you noted, believed that they could bring this equality through “advancing liberal democratic values” in the Post Cold War Era. Madison, on the hand, argued that it was the Republican Form of Government created by the U.S. Constitution that “promises the cure for controlling competing factions.” (Id. ¶14) Unfortunately, we as the United States destroyed that Republican Form of Government described in Article IV, §4 of the U.S. Constitution with our “democracy.” Democracies, he explained, “can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction.” (Id. ¶13)
In our original Republican Form of Government, Madison explained, “The different governments will control each other, at the same time that each will be controlled by itself.” (Madison, The Federalist Papers, Ltr. 51, ¶9.) He referred to this as a “double security.”
What nobody understands anymore is that we destroyed this “double security” when we began to democratize Presidential elections beginning in 1824 and Senatorial elections in 1913. These two changes destroyed the “double security,” and the states completely lost their ability to control the national government and halt the concentration of power in D.C. These two changes took the power and placed it in the hands of the political parties and they have been controlling the national government and concentrating power into the hands of the national government ever since that time. It was the concentration of political power into the hands of the few that destroyed our security and the international security as well.
Give it some thought.
In the Netherlands a politician, Pim Fortuyn was several years ago being shot dead. While he was not in favour of buying American Joint Strike Fighters.
But now we have hundreds of political warmongers who destroy the entire country. But nobody is shoouting them.
So that the supposed killer was a lone nutter is bullshit.
The article provides insight into the cluster of strategic, ideological, and geopolitical insecurities generating anxiety across Western capitals, including within Trump’s own administration, while also illuminating the political oxygen being given to his increasingly delusional and mercurial policies.
It further sheds light on the deliberate cultivation of agents of chaos in strategic trade nodes such as Nigeria and in European settler outposts such as South Africa, through the deployment of the empire’s tried-and-tested ‘Color/Leopard Revolution’ playbook of regime change, political destabilisation, and divide-and-rule tactics.
Within this logic, local proxies such as Afrophobic March and March and AfriForum are positioned to function as rapidly mobilising fifth-column networks, aimed at fracturing the domestic foundations of states associated with the emerging multipolar order and, in turn, slowing the consolidation of BRICS and the broader transition of global power from Western primacy, to the East.
Agents of chaos indeed; why else did the US recently open a consulate in the middle of the desert? https://www.consulate-info.com/consulate/31697/United-States-in-Dakhla. Add to that the recent influx of big Israeli investments there... and you can spot trouble on the horizon years ahead. My bet would be another US Nordstream moment, but now on the Southern Algerian oil pipes running North... to Europe... No money in that for the US and friends, yet...so the pipes must change direction...West, to the new port of Dakhla....and Europe keeps on sleeping.
I fundamentally trust the people in the streets in the western countries who does not want war and probably will oppose a calling to arms if challenged. Then the elites will loose their power and must step down. The alternative is the end of planet Earth
I think you underestimate how propaganda works. Today, it is our most evolved form of politics. Watch Prof. Kees van de Pijl explain one recent example that did exactly what it was designed to do and was backed by the US majority. Even before AI, smart people could always fool the masses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOtdeewC93Q
Thank you for this. I'm working on a machine translation of this interview, it is explosive.
Well said as far as it goes, but neglects an important dimension which is mounting civil strife and even civil war in Western countries as more suffer the consequences and see the futility of warmongering. The reaction has already begun in several countries, each in its own way and attempts to suppress it will only serve to make our real enemies more evident.
You forgot to include radical leftists playing a role the destruction of their own countries with a rise of dangerous socialistic thought.
What radical leftists? Where are they? We need their "dangerous" ideas.
Ahhhhh someone who is mentally ill should thinks that pro-violent, pro-baby killing, and pro-illegal immigration is perfectly fine and isn’t far left? Maybe you should go get help because you’re mentally retarded and think up is down and wrong is right.
You and others like you should be blocked.
Why do? Did I hurt your feelings while you decide which pronouns you’re going to use tomorrow as you pick out what you’re going to wear at the anti-ICE rally?
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"A hegemonic system does manage competing security interests of states, rather it seeks stability, order and peace through dominance." I think you meant to write, "does not manage".
“A hegemonic system does manage competing security interests of states, rather it seeks stability, order and peace through dominance.”Did you mean “does not?”
War is the moment humanity forgets itself. It begins long before the first shot—inside wounded egos, old grievances, and leaders who mistake fear for strength. On the ground, it turns ordinary people into ghosts of who they were, scattering families, futures, and innocence. War pretends to solve problems by destroying everything that could have solved them. clarity cuts through the illusion: conflict is never between nations, only between minds lost in separation. When separation dissolves, war has no oxygen left to burn.
Thank you. I see this too...
Though I would frame the problem not as difference itself, but as what happens when distinction becomes separation. Nations, groups and individuals are distinct, but they are never really independent of the relations that shape their security, interests and behavior.
The difficulty is that once we organize the world through separation, locally rational actions can begin producing collectively irrational outcomes - and each side can then generate evidence confirming why the other is a threat. That is where war can become self-reproducing long before anyone consciously chooses it.