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Carolyn L Zaremba's avatar

This outrages me. Russia has done nothing to the U.S. to deserve the way it has been attacked relentlessly ever since the end of WWII. The Soviet Union won the war against Hitler and the U.S. has resented that fact since 1945! That's gratitude for you! Russia wanted nothing but peace with Europe after the dissolution of the USSR, but the door to peace was slammed in their faces by a violent, greedy and insane NATO and U.S. All of this death and destruction, all of the lies and propaganda against Russia, a country that has no interest whatsoever in invading and conquering Europe. Russia doesn't need Europe. Europe needs Russia but the idiots in countries like the UK and especially Germany are destroying themselves in the service of the United States' paranoia and sick dreams to rule the planet. I am an American but this makes me sick.

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The western public were not deceived. Ukraine is and was Europe's poorest big country and with dismal levels of inequality and horrible on many measures of social development.

They were also NOT a democracy, and they had and still have a huge problem with racism and the nazi strain of that disease. Which led to them since 2014 being in civil war in which local government-allied racist militia were committing genocide on Ukrainians in the eastern part of that country. It sure cant have felt democratic for those people in Ukraine to have their own government allowing thugs to kill and intimidate them.

So it was an utter joke to hear anyone claim that fighting on behalf of THAT cesspool was "pro-democracy".

When someone tells you rather OBVIOUS lies, and you chose to believe them, its called self-deception.

What the westerners did was gather in self-referential bubbles in "social media" and lie to themselves, on cue from the western media. Anyone who went on social media or any forum and attempted to say the truth, was shouted down or cancelled from these fora.

The western public have to take a self accounting. They have blood on their hands.

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